Imagine if you got beat up by some dudes, ran over a car, and rushed to a hospital. You tell people who was at fault, and who you want to press charges against.

Only for some people to point at a neighbor you maybe only had a mild quarrel with and go “let’s avenge Joe by breaking this guy’s legs!”

**That is what’s going on here.**

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[Palestinians have published a list of companies to Boycott, Divest, and Sanction—this is called the BDS list.](https://bdsmovement.net/)

This is the only official list of target companies that Palestinians approve having their name and cause attached to when doing—any—boycott at all.

People are free to Boycott companies outside of the BDS list, BUT Palestinians and their supporters have **repeatedly** asserted that you should not use the Palestinian cause to start (or incite) boycotts for companies NOT on the BDS list.

There are many reasons for that, but among them is that it will only distract from the actual boycott targets and generate unnecessary friction against the boycott movement.

[**And as of writing, Starbucks is NOT on the BDS list.**](https://bdsmovement.net/Act-Now-Against-These-Companies-Profiting-From-Genocide)

I don’t like Starbucks either, but the people using “but think about Palestine!” to attack Scarle are literally just parasites leeching on to a cause for their own ends.

Let’s be real. The people attacking Scarle are doing it not because “but Palestine!!” but because the community supports her for defying Niji management once or twice.

There is no quarrel between Starbucks and Palestine as of writing. Starbucks’ issue is that it engages in union-busting and treats its workers poorly.

by Ryuunotaki

10 Comments

  1. AzFreeze

    I’m all for bringing down companies, but if you are using the Palestine situation to justify it you should apply it across the boards and not give a free pass to companies like Google and Amazon that have actual proven connections to the Israeli government and military (the company vtubers are still streaming on YouTube and Twitch which are owned by above)

  2. juances19

    I’ll just say that unless someone lives in the woods and hunts their own food, chances are you’re unknowingly supporting a company that’s doing something evil somewhere.

    Heck, just by watching a vtuber you’re indirectly supporting either google or amazon.

  3. barbarosa2009

    Personally, I don’t give a fuck what Palestinians want.

  4. Discordiansz

    I know this isn’t specific to just Scarle but it is almost impossible to do anything/buy anything in today’s age without supporting the companies listed by being a customer through either associated companies or those companies directly. Like I see Intel, Google, and HP listed. Good luck doing anything on a pc.

    For Google if your internet browser is Chrome, Opera and its variants, Edge, Brave, Vivaldi, or most of the other major browsers bar Firefox, congrats You have indirectly supported Google as they are all chromium based.

    I understand my own hypocrisy here, of course, as I am writing this using Google Chrome.

    Going after content creators for having a coffee from a chain restaurant or getting a burger from McD’s is just asinine and helps to change nothing about the situation. Most of the people who have called her out on it just sounds like they are clout chasers who want to be the ones that “toppled” the mean evil streamer who dared to do something they themselves are most likely also guilty of, fucking hypocrites.

    [BDS list](https://bdsmovement.net/Act-Now-Against-These-Companies-Profiting-From-Genocide) as of January 5th 2024

  5. LynxRaide

    >There are many reasons for that, but among them is that it will only distract from the actual boycott targets and generate unnecessary friction against the boycott movement.

    And here is a good example. I have not seen the stream, but with everything about it I saw in passing she had mentioned going to McDonald’s. Got a feeling this was the actual target, but others didn’t see it and jumped on Starbucks instead.

  6. NotACertainLalaFell

    I honestly don’t care for the context. Leave that shit outside streams. I really don’t think that’s a difficult concept to grasp.

    Like you got people bringing that shit in and harassing people. Now you get people big mad buying Starbucks in response or trying to piss boycotters off. Just all look goofy. It’s just patently ridiculous. These groups need to get a room together and fuck off.

    This is a complicated war with decades of history that calls for a multifaceted, multi nation, response. Nobody is finding the fucking answer in an anime girl’s stream. There are appropriate platforms everywhere else for this. Argue all over Twitter if you want. Don’t understand what action can be derived either for or against aside from me thinking the whole lot of them are dipshits for bringing this into a cake stream.

  7. Richmanisrich

    My observation, boycott doesn’t effect on international level conflict. Russia, China, Iran, Best Korea is the prime example of this. Hell, you could say USA willing go as far to sacrifice its own citizens health care just to keep the war flame burning.

    For those genuinely want to join boycott should do it privately. Harassing others only causes opposite reaction.

  8. Sometimes im questioning. If they really boycotting. Why are they still on internet? They should throw everything because who knows whos people made them.

  9. toxichart

    AFAIK people have been boycotting Starbucks because they filed a lawsuit against the Union after the Union posted something on social media that allegedly damaged their reputation. And the Union is countersuing for defamation saying that the company implied they support terrorism.

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