Saw a screenshot of their super chats earnings on 4ch and it’s low-low but don’t know about holostars. Wouldn’t be surprised tbh.
FlowerDance2557
Which 4 holostars is this referring to? There’s both EN and JP as far as I’m aware and I’m not sure which one is being referenced here. I’m also guessing whoever typed this meant Kunai Nakasato.
Either way it is almost certainly true. You can check the superchat revenue on [https://playboard.co/en/](https://playboard.co/en/)
I mean I don’t think that’s all that surprising ( if true) taking into consideration the amount of controversies niji is in, fan discontent and their poor promotion of these talents ( i learned about them like two weeks ago)
So besides Claude, Kunai and Victoria is earning quite a bit less than the newest Holostars Armis.
3GlowingStripes
Jurard Whale here, I don’t know about Octavio and Gebbie, but I know Jurard as some insane whale mechanics built into his monetization for that BFE though. Have you seen the 700 dollar membership?
Edit: A lot of male vtubers does it, it seems. While GFE seems to be the successful minority of the female vtuber tropes (Rushia type), BFE does seem like the standard for male vtubers.
Edit3: I don’t think Jurard defenders understand what I’m comparing. So I’ll lay it simple, You get a lot of $$ if you have any bit of BFE/GFE even as a a joke. Vivi and co here doesn’t seem to have any tiny bit of that. so they’re not gonna be raking in the thirst money.
Most of the women vtubers avoid this since Rushia’s Drama gave them a good precedence not to. Male vtubers hasn’t had a Rushia related type of incident yet.
Of the few female vtubers that I know jokes about GFE related things are Dizzy from Phase Connect and she has a massive monetization advantage to her gen mates and even Corpomates for that matter. Playboard tells that story clearly.
I also do realize Twitch meta is different compared to Youtube, and that twitch meta embraces the Rushia/Hex GFE/BFE things much more readily, especially for female vtubers.
many_dooors
I think the most tragic part is that they are both very enjoyable to watch. If there was a more direct way to support them, I would
KPrime1292
Considering there was no buildup and they just low key dropped their debut, not surprised. They really deserve better. They also never got a chance to do a collab to get exposure before the black stream.
Lightless427
and we’re surprised by this .. why?
Given recent circumstances. I’m pretty sure ALL of NijiEN is down pretty low.
De4dSilenc3
It’s really disappointing that Niji EN doesn’t promote their talents or collabs, it seems. Victoria’s only gained ~3k subs in the last month and her streams are pretty chill to listen to. Right now she’s at 99,995 according to socialcounts. The growth is so small, you can really tell the company does not care about their generation, but she deserves that 100k, even if Niji will never give her the button.
Decent_Tear_2940
I mean they don’t even have group name, they literally came up with TTT themselves
Also they don’t have any group song like other waves
So yeah, niji completely abandoned them since debut
Sad because kunai and Vivi is enjoyable compared to last wave (krisis or some shit they called it)
killerbull27
Didn’t the contract say the only support the livers are sure to get is the Niji brand name and maybe some $1300 streaming set up that they’ll(Niji) take when you leave the company
LastDem
Very probable, and after the contract leaked…it seems Even more plausible they fact management didnt Even promoted them
Pizzamess
yeah and its not even very close. Based on playboard alone, the newest Holostars gen members have made between 7900 and over 31k where as Victoria and kunai are sitting at 5500 and 3900 respectively. The exception to this is Claude who has made 18.5k
phatboisteez
If Vivi and Kunai debuted pre Illuna they would be going crazy. Way too good of talents to be floundering
ArcanaTrace
Kunai KANESHIRO
RaDi0_4cTiV3
who is Victoria and Kunai?
mrloko120
That’s not surprising. TTT didn’t have much marketing around their debut, then as soon as they’re starting to settle, drama and boycott happens. It’s unfortunate timing for them.
Also, just in case you may be thinking it’s surprising to see male vtubers make a lot in superchats, remember that Kuzuha who is among the top 10 earners worldwide on youtube, is also a male vtuber.
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Probably. I don’t know the numbers for the Holostars members but that one website was showing EXTREMELY low numbers for the Niji members.
Iirc it came from this [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/1b7vj1r/after_watching_the_legal_mindset_stream_regarding/ktl8b1t/) on the [Niji contract post](https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/1b7vj1r/after_watching_the_legal_mindset_stream_regarding/) on the [general Vtuber subreddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/), do note that this is just superchats so it doesnt include any merch sales, add revenueu and memberships, but i dont think that would make a difference even if we included that.
Saw a screenshot of their super chats earnings on 4ch and it’s low-low but don’t know about holostars. Wouldn’t be surprised tbh.
Which 4 holostars is this referring to? There’s both EN and JP as far as I’m aware and I’m not sure which one is being referenced here. I’m also guessing whoever typed this meant Kunai Nakasato.
Either way it is almost certainly true. You can check the superchat revenue on [https://playboard.co/en/](https://playboard.co/en/)
[Victoria Brightshield](https://playboard.co/en/channel/UChTA8kHyInr2rKZ2aBv5ULw/superchat) total $5,568
[Kunai Nakasato](https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCwqtK-m6954_aHEvOYtZpyQ/superchat) total $3,917
Combined total $9485
I mean I don’t think that’s all that surprising ( if true) taking into consideration the amount of controversies niji is in, fan discontent and their poor promotion of these talents ( i learned about them like two weeks ago)
It is true
Victoria and Kunai:
[https://playboard.co/en/search?q=victoria%20brightshield](https://playboard.co/en/search?q=victoria%20brightshield)
Claude:
[https://playboard.co/en/search?q=claude%20clawmark](https://playboard.co/en/search?q=claude%20clawmark)
Newest Holostars:
[https://playboard.co/en/search?q=holostars-en%20armis](https://playboard.co/en/search?q=holostars-en%20armis)
So besides Claude, Kunai and Victoria is earning quite a bit less than the newest Holostars Armis.
Jurard Whale here, I don’t know about Octavio and Gebbie, but I know Jurard as some insane whale mechanics built into his monetization for that BFE though. Have you seen the 700 dollar membership?
Edit: A lot of male vtubers does it, it seems. While GFE seems to be the successful minority of the female vtuber tropes (Rushia type), BFE does seem like the standard for male vtubers.
edit2: for those wondering about the 700 dollar membership, its only 500 ish when converted to USD.here’s the screenshot from his youtube channel:[https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fi3947e9atsmc1.png](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fi3947e9atsmc1.png)
Edit3: I don’t think Jurard defenders understand what I’m comparing. So I’ll lay it simple, You get a lot of $$ if you have any bit of BFE/GFE even as a a joke. Vivi and co here doesn’t seem to have any tiny bit of that. so they’re not gonna be raking in the thirst money.
Most of the women vtubers avoid this since Rushia’s Drama gave them a good precedence not to. Male vtubers hasn’t had a Rushia related type of incident yet.
Of the few female vtubers that I know jokes about GFE related things are Dizzy from Phase Connect and she has a massive monetization advantage to her gen mates and even Corpomates for that matter. Playboard tells that story clearly.
I also do realize Twitch meta is different compared to Youtube, and that twitch meta embraces the Rushia/Hex GFE/BFE things much more readily, especially for female vtubers.
I think the most tragic part is that they are both very enjoyable to watch. If there was a more direct way to support them, I would
Considering there was no buildup and they just low key dropped their debut, not surprised. They really deserve better. They also never got a chance to do a collab to get exposure before the black stream.
and we’re surprised by this .. why?
Given recent circumstances. I’m pretty sure ALL of NijiEN is down pretty low.
It’s really disappointing that Niji EN doesn’t promote their talents or collabs, it seems. Victoria’s only gained ~3k subs in the last month and her streams are pretty chill to listen to. Right now she’s at 99,995 according to socialcounts. The growth is so small, you can really tell the company does not care about their generation, but she deserves that 100k, even if Niji will never give her the button.
I mean they don’t even have group name, they literally came up with TTT themselves
Also they don’t have any group song like other waves
So yeah, niji completely abandoned them since debut
Sad because kunai and Vivi is enjoyable compared to last wave (krisis or some shit they called it)
Didn’t the contract say the only support the livers are sure to get is the Niji brand name and maybe some $1300 streaming set up that they’ll(Niji) take when you leave the company
Very probable, and after the contract leaked…it seems Even more plausible they fact management didnt Even promoted them
yeah and its not even very close. Based on playboard alone, the newest Holostars gen members have made between 7900 and over 31k where as Victoria and kunai are sitting at 5500 and 3900 respectively. The exception to this is Claude who has made 18.5k
If Vivi and Kunai debuted pre Illuna they would be going crazy. Way too good of talents to be floundering
Kunai KANESHIRO
who is Victoria and Kunai?
That’s not surprising. TTT didn’t have much marketing around their debut, then as soon as they’re starting to settle, drama and boycott happens. It’s unfortunate timing for them.
Also, just in case you may be thinking it’s surprising to see male vtubers make a lot in superchats, remember that Kuzuha who is among the top 10 earners worldwide on youtube, is also a male vtuber.