Disney’s trend of building the exact same rides in every single park began back at the opening of the Magic Kingdom and has gotten worse ever since.
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Rare Reviewtyme L. This video reeks of privilege. It’s expensive to visit one of these places, let alone travel around the world. Why should someone who is not as financially well off be barred from experiencing several world-renowned rides?
I get some of what you’re trying to say in regard to making sure an attraction fits its location, but come on.
Universal might buy Disney if they don't get their act together or it could be Sony that could buy it or someone bigger like Paramount Disney needs to turn around everything before they become just a memory
This is why Mystic Manor is my favorite Disney ride.
I agree because EVERYONE wants to visit tokyo disney resort especially because of its uniqueness from every other resort around the world. I know you JUST uploaded this but WDW has a bunch of blue sky projects that may or may not happen, but they are unique! like the zootopia expansion, or villains land. So it really isnt all downhill in terms of copy attractions for the western parks
I get what you're saying. Financially, I am not someone who can make it to Shanghai to ride attractions like Tron, so bringing it closer to home is something I appreciate.
I think this was written from a place of privilege. It would be a dream come true for me someone local to Los Angeles to be able to visit the different parks around the world. But I dont have the means and never even been to Florida. I love that Disneyland got Galaxy’s Edge and Micky & Minnie. I hope that if Disneyland Forward comes to fruition that we get Tron as a part of the DCA expansion. That said there are still plenty of unique attractions at the other parks that make me want to visit them (if I can ever afford it).
Whilst many points on Disney made sense, I think one needs to expand on why Universal gets the hall pass with Wizarding World (and soon Nintendo land). In fact, aren't most Universal having "Wizarding World", "Minions", "Jurassic" and now "Nintendo"? There was a 1-2 line in this video about Universal, but it really doesn't explain why they don't get the same critic as Disney on the same topic.
Are both equally guilty, or is the title right and being critical of Disney only?
I agree having clones of rides from Florida in Anaheim or vice versa doesn’t really makes sense.
Clones of rides from Shanghai, in Florida say, seems less of an issue to me. That park is ultimately serving an almost completely different audience. The amount of people who will go to both parks will be very small, it’s only a problem for enthusiasts then
Well to me the points you made is what going to both makes it good so you can see the differences of the two rides that are the same like Disneyland’s pirates is longer and their hunted mansion has that holiday overlay which magic kingdoms hunted mansion doesn’t have. Just because the rides are the same doesn’t mean they won’t have slight differences between the other versions.
Rumours are that Disney ordered 3 of the tron track so another lucky park will be getting the clone. Probably Disneyland Parc in Paris?
So my Disney park experience was going to WDW in 2000, again in 04 or 05, and then not touching a park until I went to Disneyland for a day back in 2018. From there I caught the bug and went to Disneyland two more times since then. I was excited when, due to early covid restriction loosening, I was able to take my brother to WDW for very cheap, which would be his first Disney trip of his memorable life (he was 6 months old when we went in 2000).
I was so thoroughly underwhelmed by WDW. The versions of my favorite rides were all shorter (pirates), worse, or carbon copies with or without the history (small world, Galaxy’s edge, etc). Of course there were a handful of unique experiences and things but Epcot was a mess of construction walls, without FastPass or anything AK was a MESS of 3+ hour lines, and HS was fine. He was much more impressed when I was able to take him to Disneyland because it was better versions of the hits, a cozier vibe (more walk around characters, less aggressive people on once in a life time vacations trying to squeeze the life out of every moment, smaller footprint), and it has some unique experiences like Cars Land that dk make things special.
They need to quit cloning because it doesn’t encourage more people to come to parks in general, it encourages people to not go to multiple parks and instead stick to one or the other or maybe just go once.
There are loads of other intamin blitzes
I tried to dig a hole to the other side of the earth when I was a kid and got about a foot deep…so I don't think I'm going to China anytime soon. So I don't mind if they have the same attractions at parks on different continents, especially something that looks as badass as Tron. But yeah I agree that Disneyland and magic kingdom being like the same is a little ridiculous
Coming from Europe, Eurodisney is more or less my home park. Comparing this park to other Disney parks gives the impression that Europe is being fobbed off with below average attractions. The park doesn't really have a standout attraction. And if there's anything new somewhere else, Eurodisney gets a very bad copy. For example, Florida gets the Avengers and in Europe the entire Rock'n Rollercoaster is simply and lovelessly re-themed to Avengers. Disney thinks that must be enough for Europe. I wish there was at least an equivalent copy in Eurodisney. That would be a significant increase in quality. I don't even dare to dream of a really outstanding and unique attraction.
With Tron Legacy being one of my favourite movies I would be devastated if it never opened in the states because I probably will never be able to afford to travel to Shanghai.
Thought the same thing when DCA got Little Mermaid, Soarin, ToT, Muppet Vision, Tough to be a Bug…why would I take an extra trip when I’ve been on all that in WDW?
After going to Tokyo Disney Sea and then Hong Kong Disneyland, and seeing how unique the lands and experiences are (all of Disney Sea and Mystic Point at HK), I could not agree more with this. The more unique rides at each park, the more of an identity each park has and therefore it's own appeal to guests around the world. Sadly whenever there's a post about a ride or land in the international parks on the Disney Parks social media, a huge amount of the comments are "We need this in the US parks!!!".
As much as I'd love all unique additions to each park round the world, I think the best compromise is to keep the ride system the same and re-theme the actual ride, similar to the rumours about the Lion King Splash Mountain for Paris. If you look at Tower of Terror and Soaring Fantastic Flight in Tokyo Disney Sea or Phantom Manor in Disneyland Paris, the rides still feel different and have their own identity. Cloning exact rides limits your desire to go to another park, which is extra weird when they do it in California and Florida. Galaxy's Edge and Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway being carbon copies in the same country is asbolutely wild to me.
i think its okay for them to be cloned, depending on the distance between each other and how similar they are. like space mountain, peter pan, pirates, btm, etc are all necessities
Odd that some videos had the dumbo ride with a hat on and one without
Think about it. Disney is World Wide. They have many parks. If Disney Shanghai did not build Tron first would Disney World have this ride? Spqce Mountain as an example should be accessible for every park not just one
I didn't like the cloned Asian rides at first, but I look at it as Disney using the Asian parks as a test before they bring it to WDW or DL. It's still lame and they're capable of so much more.
I can understand cloning a ride that’s further away, such as Tron. But cloning rides between Orlando and Anaheim feels redundant as it’s much easier to travel to those parks living in North America. Similar story for cloning rides that exist in Japan, Hong Kong and Shanghai.
I agree. Make each park different
Agree with the crux of your video. Disney direct clones are a downer. Clones with noticeable variations are ok, IMO. Exact replicas of Lands are less exciting. In a way though, all of the Magic Kingdoms are clones, but it is within the variations, that I enjoy the subtle and not so subtle differences. For example, I really love Tokyo’s Magic Kingdom because of the mix of Disneyland & Disney World in a single Park. Growing up visiting WDW, I was shocked to see the original Small World upon my first visit to Disneyland. NOTE: As a former HKDL AP, Mystic Point / Manor is fun, certainly a great addition to the Park, but is it, one of the best Lands / Attractions across all of Disney? I like it, a lot…but honestly, I prefer the classic Haunted Mansion. Perhaps it was my expectation that they would take Disneyland Paris’ Phantom Manor to the next level. But did they? That said, I do appreciate, however, that they did something entirely different. One of my all-time favorite Disney experiences was the first year that HKDL did their Spooky Celebration. They had a Haunted Mansion walkthrough adjacent to Main Street. The set, the props, the location, it was perfect. What’s also cool, is that was where they had originally planned to place the first Haunted Mansion in Disneyland, before going for its New Orleans / Frontierland location. Thanks for your videos. Cheers!
It’s 2023: Disney is hemorrhaging money, and just laid off 7000 employees. I don’t see this happening anytime soon.
Just don't go to Disney? They're a bunch of scam artists that groom kids.
With what you mentioned about most of the Chapek era rides being cloned at other parks, it's kinda a miracle that Walt Disney World got a unique Guardians of the Galaxy ride, instead of retheming their Tower of Terror to be a Mission Breakout clone. Of course I'm glad that Walt Disney World's Tower of Terror remains unchanged, as it is the original version and so iconic. Not to mention, Mission Breakout wouldn't really work with the Sunset Boulevard theming without expanding it into their own Avengers Campus, which won't happen so long as Universal clings to those East Coast Marvel rights.
If Six Flags would start building more Batman clones, that'd be great.
I feel like if we didn't had copy and paste attractions it will make us want to see other parks in different Disney resorts
It's funny you bring up Tokyo Disneysea, I went about 3 months ago and live in California pretty close to Disney and have been a ton of times, quite a few as a kid.
Even in Disneysea, one of the main things that saved me from having to shell out ridiculous quantities of money to skip lines were the ride clones. Tower of terror is no more in DCA, but I've been in Florida and on the previous version, soarin still exists in california, and midway mania is a direct clone. I did Indiana Jones as I was by myself (go single rider line) but that was essentially a simplified version of the disneyland ride where most of the effects were working. I went to the Turtle talk ride as well (which is surreal when you don't speak any Japanese, but I digress) and realized I'd actually been at the now closed one disney set up in a children's hospital. Even Disneysea isn't immune to the syndrome.
To me this all culminates in what they're doing in Walt Disney Studios in Paris right now. That park has always been considered the worst Disney Park, so when they announced a large-scale fixing of the park by adding new themed lands, everyone was excited to see what the plans were. Turns out it was a copy of Avenger's Campus, an inferior copy of World of Frozen in Hong Kong and Tokyo DisneySea with a copy of Frozen Ever After, and an inferior copy of Galaxy's Edge with only one of the two rides. I'm baffled this is their big solution to fix the park. Sure, anything new is welcome, but if you really want to make your park something worth visiting, wouldn't you rather build something completely unique to draw people to this specific park? The Galaxy's Edge expansion has been quietly cancelled, so part of me hopes they're gonna put something bigger and more unique in its place, but I'm not confident.
One subcategory you could have included is when they repurpose the ride system but with totally different theming. I didn't initially realize that Test Track at WDW is pretty much the Cars ride at California Adventure. And now one Tower of Terror is the Twilight Zone and the other is Guardians of the Galaxy.
yeppppp. why would i fly to California or Florida from Australia when i can fly to Japan and experience Disney sea. disney world is bigger…ok…….thats not enough for me now. EPCOT. cool. still not enough to pay the extras
I’ve always said this Disney needs to go back to Walt Disney’s OG vision for the parks about creating classic but immersive attractions both tied to IP and NOT IP and if they do clone attractions which I’m ok with once in a blue moon add a couple extra scenes or add new areas to explore in queue lines! People always give me the excuse saying yeah but Disney’s running out of ideas and I say to that NO there not running out of ideas they’re just running out of cheap ones and I’ve heard that there have been a lot of really cool concepts that have been dreamt up by imagineers but CEO’s and board of directors have shut them down all in the name of saving an extra million of dollars on a certain attraction it’s all of the people on the high chair that limits the imagination it’s kinda funny how during all of this in every speech they said Walt Disney had a dream and we’re just plusing his ideas when they’re building Six Flags level attractions!
They are too busy building rich people housing and eyesore hotels.
I strongly disagree with the concept of having unique rides in different parks. It is extremely unlikely that I will ever be able to visit any of the non-Florida parks.
I don’t have an issue with them building the same rides at different parks. I’m glad people can visit different parks and go on the same rides.❤
i kinda have a lot to say about this so sorry for the essay comment:
In general, i agree that having lots of the same ride everywhere is bad. however, solely unique rides would not go too well, so theres some valid reasons and ways to build the same ride.
one of my favorite ways this is done is twin clones, especially between america and a non-american park, like ratatouille, twilight zone tower, and (most recently) the galaxies edges and runaway railways. these are great, because a ride feels somewhat exclusive and still unique, but you can get the good experience without exclusively having to travel to (place) exclusively. this works especially well for things like galaxys edge that are just super good, because they dont get their fun and value from unique-ness among disney. if the only reason to go to paris is for ratatouille and ratatouille opening at epcot kills paris, your problem is quality and quantity of rides, not exclusivity. This is also great because it saves design costs- if you make a truly very good e ticket like rise, you can just build it twice and now two parks have amazing rides rather than one. The idea that building unique rides is always better assumes that rather than one of really anything, there would be a different but equally good ride that did the same thing.
the best form of clonage is what i call "half clones," where a ride uses the same system but a different theme and story. the test tracks and towers of terror are great examples of this. say you havent been on any towers and have to pick only one park to go to ever – they are all kind of the same, so it isnt too hard to compare them, and they are similar enough you arent missing too much if you can only get on one. the dealbreaker in which you go to isnt just "which park got more investment" but "which collection of unique stories am i most interested in," and stories are what the parks are all about. and if you've been on one and liked it, you now have a clear incentive to go to a different one, because it has a new spin on a ride you know you like.
theres also just some rides that are really good, and deserve to go more than two places. these are the ones that arent quite e tickets, so they're not the main factor, but they are still really good. things like the splash mountains and thunder mountains, for example.
Meanwhile, Mysterious Island is still only in Tokyo.