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Amazing video! Incredibly interesting & well presented 😀
norway is too busy building highways all over the place to build high-speed rail 🙁
You should’ve made this video earlier when I was doing an assessment at school for persuasive advertising and I had to try persuade people to use train travel instead of air travel!
Due to monopolistic nature of railways, the best alternative to an airplane is any automobile with automatic pilot. Hundreds of cars can be built with the energy and metal used in production of a single train. Therefore the production of trains should be made harder via imposing more taxes on train travel.
Agree with this video for the most part – a lot of today's flights strictly speaking are unnecessary and stressful to take. The biggest reason why domestic flights exist in the UK (and short hop international ones to France, Germany, Spain etc) exist is due to the sheer cost of train travel within and linking to the UK. The fares are so high people are willing to take a more stressful option, and when the flights advertise a "1 hour" journey time (which doesn't include the waiting, security and check-in etc) it pushes people even further towards them. Add to that coaches are also really cheap if lengthy options, and high speed rail just isn't all that compelling for most people here.
I live near the city of Esbjerg (5th largest city in Denmark) and enjoy holidays in Edinburgh (Capital of Scotland). Back in the day, I would be able to take a ferry to Newcastle. If that Ferry came back, I could easily take that, and then, I could take a High Speed train to Edinburgh. Where's now, i'm basically bound to take a plane.
Very common in Germany to take High Speed Rail direct to Frankfurt Airport and then board an intercontinental flight.
Do you suggest partnerships between the airlines and rail? If you want to go from the DC area to a location in Europe, and that airline doesn’t offer the flight out of DC, but they have it out of NY, your solution might cause even MORE flights, such as DC – CO – NY – EU.
Very informative and presented. Lets hope governments are bold to replace short haul flights with high speed rail. Melbourne -Sydney would make so much sense economically, environmentally, convenience and experience wise …but the Airlines ( Qantas) have the government captive to the status quo. Must pay a lot for lobbying!
A point frequently missed is that metro areas are huge. Rail can make a suburban stop and a downtown stop making rail much more convenient to the larger area rather than a single airport on the edge of town.
I don't think electric planes will ever be a thing.
Yes… BUT there’s a point where train is too expensive, reason why new fuel like SAF or Hydrogen for aircraft is the future, specially in cases where air travel is the only option
Yeah except when you want to take TGV from Hendaye (the most southwestern town of France) to Nice for example and the only way is passing through Paris
To all my PF homies watching this video 💯💯
China's HSR makes inter-city commuting practical.
Who is interested in a significantly lower cost alternative which can be as fast, safe & reliable… as well as higher capacity than hyperloop /maglev? Using already proven technologies, and fully compliant with all international standards & regulations… it should also be faster to build & develop…
Promote & see our legacy for all generations, especially those yet to come!
No transport network is immune to faults and weather disruptions for instance. All modes of transport working together are part of a back up system in order to complement each other despite the fact for me all transport system should be made of railways of all kind and shapes.
Thank you for sharing interesting content.
Britain has a historic and serious infrastructure problem leading to lack of capacity, and that makes the railway to suck in that nation. There is a High Speed Line that if not explained to outsiders can pass the idea it connects the country's major cities sucha as in France and Spain for instance. Actually the High Speed 1 is a rapid connection from Londo to the Southeastern most region of England to reach the Channel Tunnel Rail Link where tha under sea crossing to Mainland Europe starts. High Spees 1 is an International HIgh Speed Services line with the addition of Semi-Fast domestic services taking advantage of speed avoiding commuter lines, thus the reason why Eurostar Services do not connect intermidiate stations apart from allowing passengers to boarding and alight this services for international travel only. Hopefully the introduction of High Speed 2 finally makes justice to british commuters can be served of much faster domestic connections denied for decades.
I was at Stratford International the other day and the abandoned platforms 1 & 4 are a pretty dismal sight; I will forever regret that Eurostar services north of London were never implemented. Putting aside certain political nonsense that would forbid any kind of easy travel to mainland Europe, having international trains running the length of the country would be fantastic, and ideally would've taken a big chunk out of airline emissions.
Stratford is not a stop for Eurostar because it takes too long. For high speed, the train needs quite a few kms to accelerate and since Stratford is so close to St. Pancras, you basically need to slow down right after you leave. For high speed rail to compete with air travel, you need as few stops as possible. So more stops on high speed rail take relatively more time off the schedule than stops do for conventional speed rail.
Pratt and Whitney is making an engine and aircraft with bombardier which will be as efficient as a gray hound bus….. sooooo
There are also flights I ask myself why they even exist. for Example Zürich-Géneve. there is a direct Train every 30min and it takes less than 3h so why people use the plane there?
3:27 French man here 🙂
Yes, high-speed rail is better than flights but regular rail is much better is most cases. If we have convenient overnight sleeper trains running on conventional rail, that should better than both flights and high-speed rail. I don't understand why people feel the need for speed when conventional rail works well in 90% of the situations.
After a month for watching this video, I realised that there is another notable difference between airplanes and trains: Their stations. Trains run on rails so not only need infrastructure for the stations but also for the path but thanks to being grounded, trains can run underground and don't require much clearance while airports need a large, flat area on a surface for their runway which must be clear from obstacles and as a result imposes a height limit on the surrounding area, not to mention the sound of airplanes is harder to deal with than those of trains.
I don’t know, if I wanna get from England to America I’m gonna need a plane. Trains can’t match cross Atlantic speed and usability. However if I want to get from one end of my country to another, I’d much rather use a train than a plane, unfortunately our service isn’t as reliable as driving or flying as our government is crap. I also think that unless a lot of rail infrastructure is improved, taking a train to Portugal every year instead of flying would take days instead of 6 hours (including airport time), so in the current day and age planes definitely are superior. But I would love it if I could just take a high speed train rather than flying as it could be comfier and have less faff on the ground.
“English speaking countries aren’t very good with high speed rail” England: am I a joke to you?
I think short flights (2 hrs) should be banned in countries where possible and an air miles system should be introduced where you are limited how much you can fly per year. People travel way to much by flight and most isn't 100% necessary. If global warming is to be reduced I think the airline industry might have to shrink.
Okay genius. Where do YOU buy transatlantic rail tickets?
Sweden might have a problem with excessive high speed rail plans. There are plans of building HSR between the big cities (i.e Stockholm, Göteborg, Malmö) while some other cities have kinda bad train connections. Norrbotniabanan (planned rail line going Umeå-Skellefteå-Piteå-Luleå) will take until atleast 2030, a timeline that could be shortened if those HSR plans in the big cities didnt take priority
Rail vehicles aren't able to get up into the air.
Paris to Francfort in 4h when Plane is 50 minutes is not very a good alternative to me when you take 4 times as long …
I am not sure I understand the eco friendly side of HSL train because you need to literally destroy the environment to build a competitive HSL over its whole length.
When airplane you only need to build the airport infrastructure.
And don’t tell me you should use existing infrastructure because they are already busy and too slow (talking about France where I leave)