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CHAPTERS
00:00:00 – Intro
00:01:42 – Chinese Visas
00:07:17 – China in the news
00:16:15 – Hong Kong Disneyland
00:26:13 – Mystic Manor
00:29:52 – Big Grizzly Mountain Runaway Mine Cars
00:33:18 – Elevators
00:34:50 – Back to Grizzly Gulch
00:36:16 – Location, Momentous & the new Castle
00:42:05 – Hotels
00:48:22 – Hong Kong as an American
00:50:47 – Food in Hong Kong
00:52:47 – Where does HKDL rank?
00:59:12 – Shanghai Disneyland
01:05:51 – Different Behaviors in Shanghai
01:13:51 – Challenge Trails at Camp Discovery
01:16:46 – Pirates of the Caribbean: Battle for the Sunken Treasure
01:19:04 – Food in Shanghai
01:23:55 – WIGS: https://patreon.com/wdwnt
01:24:50 – Peter Pan’s Flight
01:30:44 – Traveling to Shanghai
01:34:30 – Japan is still better
01:40:39 – Carousel of Products: https://carouselofproducts.com/
01:40:50 – Outro
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39 Comments
Hong Kong doesn't sound like a fun place to visit
STL native here… the Arch Elevator is still the SAME Eric! ❤
So it sounds like HKDL is the Wish version of DLR
Phrase that Pays! Z100??
I think their castle looks kinda cool. It’s a different vibe.
“I’m not asking you to say something racist.”
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
I watch wdwnt all the time, this is the first podcast I’ve watched and I just say I love the conversation and open dialogue! You both make great points!
My 5 yr old has agreed to give up our wdw passes so we can go to Tokyo because we’ve bird watched YouTube and are obsessed. You’re right the foreign parks give a little more old Disney nostalgia
As a fl resident I’ve done the math so many times and it would cost me around the same amount to go to Disneyland cali, Paris, or Tokyo. From the videos I’d rather put my money towards Tokyo
I love the way you communicate about the cultures I definitely agree, we see it a little with the foreigners in our parks but just imagine when you are the foreigner
I just went on rise for the second time, there were two major parts in the hall that smelt like someone just pooped
Texas is actually very involved with the Chinese government believe it or not, I wonder if that’s why they were promoting wdw being moved there
Im glad you advertise your Thursday night Live show because i have fallen down your beyond news rabbit hole and I love it. I watch alot of theme park discussion/news/comedy but I am really enjoying your channel right now. Imma especiallya lookinga forward tooa Tonys Microwavead christmasa special!!!
The mouselets bday post to Walt the other day talked about how the park used to be about imagination and creativity and now it’s all just based off movies. While I love the connection to the ips , i miss the true creativity and innovation that Disney was built on!
So Tokyo or Disneyland?
OMG my daughter and I pick up so much trash around wdw
I was able to take my daughter to wdw like every right after we reopened and I said these are the best moments I’ll ever get with her here
Their castle is my favorite, it looks cool and you can go inside and walk up it and stuff. The Paris castle is my second favorite, it's so cool with the hill and everything. One day I will visit.
Also, China is communist in name only, they are actually socialist. Xi and many leaders have stated many times, China is "socialism with Chinese characteristics."
FYI, Hong Kong is not a country, it's a province. Lots of people get this wrong because the aren't educated in this subject.
51:35 As a Mushroom hating Vegetatian I was able to just get a plate of Vegetables from the Frozen restaurant- actually was pretty tasty
Tom careful with what you say about the CCP
They have been known to detain and give a hard time to people with negative comments about them
Tom, you are a character! I enjoyed your “imprisonment” within FrozenLand videos. I live in both Boston and Singapore, transit via Tokyo or Hong Kong, fly both routes frequently and take advantage of that, visit HKDL (AP) and Tokyo Disneyland. I have an unlimited China visa and visit SHDL often as well. I used the transit visa on a past visit to Shanghai, once. The process was easy. For Americans who aren’t familiar with traveling to places like China, as you said, you should (must) always have printed documents (not screenshots) of your plane tickets and hotel reservations. Sometimes, a printed, detailed travel agenda, will go a long way in a short boarder discussion.
Edited video to reply to further content in your video. HKDL was the result of Disney & Singapore talks breaking down as that was the preferred location for South East Asia. I actually like HKDL having the new Lands outside of the berm. It works! While I get that they are likely saving IP such as Indiana Jones, Toy Story Mania, Beauty And The Beast, Little Mermaid, Pandora, Galaxy’s Edge, CarsLand, Pirates Splash Mountain and Lion King Land for the 2nd gate, if they never happen, where appropriate, they need to be placed where the Marvel E-Ticket was supposed to go, in-between Toy Story and Frozen and in-between Legend of The Lion King and Grizzly Gulch.
BTW: There are NO parallels between China & Florida, that comment was ridiculous! Living outside of America and traveling to more than 3/4 of the globe, you have no idea, how grateful we should be, for having Civil Rights.
While I do love Pepper's Ghost effects. But the dots on the bike chain, the tinfoil volcano, and the fireflies in the Swamp area of Pirates are my favorite practical effects. I've used the fireflies effect myself as an alien creature in a sci-fi LARP. It worked really well.
Right now of the Florida parks my favorite is either Animal Kingdom or Studios.
1:25 It's cute to hear Tom thinks the US treats its citizens any better than China treats its citizens.
I’m LOVING the format of Eric asking questions as an avatar for most of us viewers: we’ve never been to Hong Kong so we want to know all these ‘mundane’ travel details. This is exactly what I’d be asking Tom. Great episode, guys!
Did not think I'd listen to the entire video. The honest talk & reality of c0mmunism made me more inclined to be a WIGS. I think when talking about the park in said countries we can't neglect the realities of the park location. It totally plays a part of park experience. Also, dual citizenship with USA/Brasil here and I believe now Americans don't need a visa 🤗 they didn't prior to 2020
Excellent podcast, these kinds of discussions are what you are best at. HKDL forever.
It may sound xenophobic but hongkongers hate mainlanders they find them rude and disrespectful and just not fun to be around mainlanders cut in lines just have a sense of entitlement and gets mad at people for not speaking mandarin even tho we speak Cantonese here and when hkers call them out for it they will call us xenophobic and discriminating against them I go to Hong Kong Disneyland like every week and every time it’s just filled with rude mainlanders cuting lines pushing people during the fireworks show using their flash when their not allowed to and just being rly rude over all
has WDWT thought about making a discord? it would be fun to discuss the episodes and any news!
I agree with you Tom, the new HK castle sucks. It is waay too busy Architecturally.
They shouldn't have made it quite so tall, and they should've stuck to only a couple design styles imo.
Need the pants story
The transit visa does not depend on visiting other Asian countries.
As long as you have a passport from one of the qualifying countries you can get a 144 hours transit visa, so longer than the old 72, as long as you can provide a transit to a third country after China.
Get bitcoin or crypto, DONT PAY REPUBLICAN BUSINESSES & TESLA THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO US DOLLAR, (No state shall coin money; emit bills of credit; make anything but gold & silver coin a tender in payment of debts)- Art1 sect10 CONFEDERACY SECESSIONIST FLORIDA REBELLION HAS NEVER PAID ITS DEBT in sole LEGAL TENDER SILVER & GOLD, disney hasnt use any coin legal tender (hospitals and insurances have no right to demand debt payments to be done in US dollar or make anything but gold & silver coin a tender in payment of debts)
By TRUMP JAN 6 INSURRECTION AND DESANTIS REBELLION WAR ON WOKE LGBTQ US CITIZENS Amendment XIV – Section 4 – The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any state shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.
DISNEY OWES NOT A CENT TO ANY INSURRECTIONIST USA REPUBLICAN STATE
Credit card debt and mortgages Also have no right to US Dollar debt payments.
Irs has no right to US dollar owed debt payments.
LETS BAN CHINA FROM US CRYPTO AND USA DOLLAR, AND LEGAL TENDER SILVER AND GOLD US MINTED COINS
Super funny video! Can’t wait to try the milkshake version!
If the Chinese want to take it back they will?
Look at google earth the concentration camp sits across the parking lot!
The St. Louis Arch hasn't changed. You take your little, super claustrophobic, pod elevators up to the top, view the skylinse from the observation deck, then take them back down to the ground floor. Also, we're not a democracy in the USA, we're a Constitutional Republic 🤣You've somewhat won me to the idea of visiting Hong Kong some day, however I will NEVER step foot on mainland china. I know what they do to their people and I will have NONE of it.
Great show! Thanks for posting. Any reason why this episode hasn’t made its way to Spotify yet?
I may not always catch this podcast live, but I make sure I catch up on them. Tom & Eric are keeping them fresh, and I always learn something new. Looking forward to more.